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	<title>Comments on: HDMI Audio: Intel's Biggest Little Secret In Home Theater PCs</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brezenski (Intel)</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-13298</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brezenski (Intel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Protected Audio/Video Path only happens if activated by software.  Linux developers would have to activate it on purpose, and I see little reason for them to do so, given that there's very little incentive to protect content in Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Protected Audio/Video Path only happens if activated by software.  Linux developers would have to activate it on purpose, and I see little reason for them to do so, given that there's very little incentive to protect content in Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Seppo</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-13297</link>
		<dc:creator>Seppo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the "Protected Audio-Video Path" or "PAVP" it not preventing supporting Linux video &#38; audio over HDMI. Lack of graphics hardware decoded H.264 video is perhaps not a problem with the latest E8xxx Intel CPUs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the "Protected Audio-Video Path" or "PAVP" it not preventing supporting Linux video &amp; audio over HDMI. Lack of graphics hardware decoded H.264 video is perhaps not a problem with the latest E8xxx Intel CPUs.</p>
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		<title>By: Seppo</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-13295</link>
		<dc:creator>Seppo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting! I think many Linux users are waiting for decent Xvideo + ALSA multichannel audio support before any hardware purchasing. At the moment all major graphics vendor's hardware have flaws in Linux support and Linux is very popular in HTPC area due to some excellent media frameworks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting! I think many Linux users are waiting for decent Xvideo + ALSA multichannel audio support before any hardware purchasing. At the moment all major graphics vendor's hardware have flaws in Linux support and Linux is very popular in HTPC area due to some excellent media frameworks.</p>
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		<title>By: sigmatel audio driver dell laptop</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-13277</link>
		<dc:creator>sigmatel audio driver dell laptop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dearsir,
stiil helps us to download the audio driver for dell laptop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dearsir,<br />
stiil helps us to download the audio driver for dell laptop</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brezenski (Intel)</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-12602</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brezenski (Intel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 03:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand Keith Packard and company are working on a unified HW acceleration framework for X in general, and will include particular G35 stuff in this implementation when it comes about.

Last I heard the ALSA drivers did mux the sound out on HDMI, but I have not actually tried it myself, so I'll concede it may be broken on the Linux side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand Keith Packard and company are working on a unified HW acceleration framework for X in general, and will include particular G35 stuff in this implementation when it comes about.</p>
<p>Last I heard the ALSA drivers did mux the sound out on HDMI, but I have not actually tried it myself, so I'll concede it may be broken on the Linux side.</p>
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		<title>By: johan</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-12601</link>
		<dc:creator>johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have bought a Asus P5E-V HDMI (Intel G35 chipset)  specifically for its HDMI audio capability, and the advertised ability to accelerate HD video. 
The hardware might be capable, but the drivers sure are not.
ALSA Intel audio does not play nice with X.org Intel video. And HD video acceleration is non-existant.
So I am stuck with mediaeval analog audio next to a FullHD panel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have bought a Asus P5E-V HDMI (Intel G35 chipset)  specifically for its HDMI audio capability, and the advertised ability to accelerate HD video.<br />
The hardware might be capable, but the drivers sure are not.<br />
ALSA Intel audio does not play nice with X.org Intel video. And HD video acceleration is non-existant.<br />
So I am stuck with mediaeval analog audio next to a FullHD panel.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brezenski (Intel)</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-12545</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brezenski (Intel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Which ones?"

All Intel G965 motherboards
Shuttle SG33G5
Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2H
Asus P5E-V HDMI
Asus P5E-VM HDMI

"Like who?"

Asus, Auzentech

"What software works?"

Mediaportal, Media Player Classic-- either with FFDshow LPCM filters
ZoomPlayer probably works too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Which ones?"</p>
<p>All Intel G965 motherboards<br />
Shuttle SG33G5<br />
Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2H<br />
Asus P5E-V HDMI<br />
Asus P5E-VM HDMI</p>
<p>"Like who?"</p>
<p>Asus, Auzentech</p>
<p>"What software works?"</p>
<p>Mediaportal, Media Player Classic-- either with FFDshow LPCM filters<br />
ZoomPlayer probably works too</p>
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		<title>By: JuMz</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-12537</link>
		<dc:creator>JuMz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mention sounds cards,boards, and devices that provide a solution to HTPC enthusiasts. Care to mention any specifics? 

i.e. "full resolution 6- and 8-channel audio simply cannot be passed digitally in any other way than on certain specific Intel platforms"

Which ones?

"there are a couple of sound card manufacturers who are now working on releasing a "passthrough", where you feed your HDMI video from a video card into your soundcard, which adds the audio and then resends it all out over another HDMI port"

Like who?

"Right now, there are so few audio solutions which accomodate this that all playback software"

What software works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mention sounds cards,boards, and devices that provide a solution to HTPC enthusiasts. Care to mention any specifics? </p>
<p>i.e. "full resolution 6- and 8-channel audio simply cannot be passed digitally in any other way than on certain specific Intel platforms"</p>
<p>Which ones?</p>
<p>"there are a couple of sound card manufacturers who are now working on releasing a "passthrough", where you feed your HDMI video from a video card into your soundcard, which adds the audio and then resends it all out over another HDMI port"</p>
<p>Like who?</p>
<p>"Right now, there are so few audio solutions which accomodate this that all playback software"</p>
<p>What software works?</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-12471</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 06:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Aaron Brezenski keep on pushing this side of industry.

Altrought Im not huge fan of intel and their business strategies I can admit that this is exelent article about HD audio realization on PC and various other aspects in this problem. This filled numerous missing information links in pursuit for full-blooded and elegant HTPC solution aspects. Im think that this feature deserves much more attention, promotion and advertisment than got so far. This feature needs to be placed in products main feature list. 

By the way I think that mass audio industry is stuck in 44.1 KHz, 2 Channel, 16bit sound for 28 years (since 1980) that is a shame !!!!

So far Im understand that first to HD audio solutins was inte nVidia joined it recently and AMD (my favorite :) ) still no solution for that :( ,  but Im think it will be to change as soon as AMD begins to feel pressure from rivals because of this lacking feature :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Aaron Brezenski keep on pushing this side of industry.</p>
<p>Altrought Im not huge fan of intel and their business strategies I can admit that this is exelent article about HD audio realization on PC and various other aspects in this problem. This filled numerous missing information links in pursuit for full-blooded and elegant HTPC solution aspects. Im think that this feature deserves much more attention, promotion and advertisment than got so far. This feature needs to be placed in products main feature list. </p>
<p>By the way I think that mass audio industry is stuck in 44.1 KHz, 2 Channel, 16bit sound for 28 years (since 1980) that is a shame !!!!</p>
<p>So far Im understand that first to HD audio solutins was inte nVidia joined it recently and AMD (my favorite :) ) still no solution for that :( ,  but Im think it will be to change as soon as AMD begins to feel pressure from rivals because of this lacking feature :).</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brezenski (Intel)</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/04/28/hdmi-audio-intels-biggest-little-secret-in-home-theater-pcs/#comment-12363</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brezenski (Intel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading, Mitch.  There is, of course, complexity to the situation.

The AACS spec (content protection for HD DVD and Blu-ray) mandates that any protected audio data on an "unprotected" interface be downconverted to at best 16-bit, 48kHz sound.  Cyberlink has taken this considerably farther and downconverts everything-- protected and unprotected-- to 16-bit, 48kHz sound.  I use alternative software like Media Player Classic or ZoomPlayer or even MediaPortal which is more difficult to configure but which can send out the full bit depth and sampling frequency up to 24-bit, 192kHz per channel.

Eventually it's likely PowerDVD will come around and allow full resolution over a protected interface, but the LPCM must be sent from the software to the HDMI port (inside the PC) encrypted or face this downconversion.  The Intel HDMI Audio solution that exists on motherboards today will not meet this criteria, as the Intel HD Audio bus is not an encrypted interface.  Future Intel chipsets will likely not have this limitation (don't know about the G45, which is coming Real Soon Now) because it will all happen on the chipset and not over an unprotected bus.  

I had forgotten about the ADAT capabilities of some of Intel's motherboards, Mitch, so you raise a good point.  While HDMI is superior, and seems the de facto standard, it was not the first to the party.  In fact, there are some specialty sound cards which include 4 SPDIF ports and pass 2 LPCM channels per port to a receiver which is likewise equipped.  Those solutions are pretty niche, though.  ADAT is an actual standard, though mostly only used by audio professionals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading, Mitch.  There is, of course, complexity to the situation.</p>
<p>The AACS spec (content protection for HD DVD and Blu-ray) mandates that any protected audio data on an "unprotected" interface be downconverted to at best 16-bit, 48kHz sound.  Cyberlink has taken this considerably farther and downconverts everything-- protected and unprotected-- to 16-bit, 48kHz sound.  I use alternative software like Media Player Classic or ZoomPlayer or even MediaPortal which is more difficult to configure but which can send out the full bit depth and sampling frequency up to 24-bit, 192kHz per channel.</p>
<p>Eventually it's likely PowerDVD will come around and allow full resolution over a protected interface, but the LPCM must be sent from the software to the HDMI port (inside the PC) encrypted or face this downconversion.  The Intel HDMI Audio solution that exists on motherboards today will not meet this criteria, as the Intel HD Audio bus is not an encrypted interface.  Future Intel chipsets will likely not have this limitation (don't know about the G45, which is coming Real Soon Now) because it will all happen on the chipset and not over an unprotected bus.  </p>
<p>I had forgotten about the ADAT capabilities of some of Intel's motherboards, Mitch, so you raise a good point.  While HDMI is superior, and seems the de facto standard, it was not the first to the party.  In fact, there are some specialty sound cards which include 4 SPDIF ports and pass 2 LPCM channels per port to a receiver which is likewise equipped.  Those solutions are pretty niche, though.  ADAT is an actual standard, though mostly only used by audio professionals.</p>
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