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		<title>By: Josh Bancroft (Intel)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Bancroft (Intel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the fact that this whole issue is blowing up, in terms of mainstream coverage, talk of class action lawsuits, I've decided to lock this comment thread. The discussion has run its course as it pertains to Intel Software Network and this blog. I'm sure there will be other, more appropriate places to continue this conversation. This is no longer the place, and I don't want to spend any time talking to lawyers about this. I'm just a blogger who tried to start some conversations, and get some answers, and this is beyond me and beyond this blog now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the fact that this whole issue is blowing up, in terms of mainstream coverage, talk of class action lawsuits, I've decided to lock this comment thread. The discussion has run its course as it pertains to Intel Software Network and this blog. I'm sure there will be other, more appropriate places to continue this conversation. This is no longer the place, and I don't want to spend any time talking to lawyers about this. I'm just a blogger who tried to start some conversations, and get some answers, and this is beyond me and beyond this blog now.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Bancroft (Intel)</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2007/04/02/video-why-intel-915-graphics-dont-have-a-wddm-driver-for-vista/#comment-10297</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Bancroft (Intel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really feel like I'm missing something here that you all are talking about. I'm really trying to understand this issue, so please, tell me what I'm missing in the following:

Microsoft decided to make some "premium" features in Windows Vista accessible only if you have a high-end video card. Correct?

There was a lot of confusion caused by how Microsoft marketed these features in Vista - "Vista Capable" versus "Vista Premium Ready". Correct?

The gateway that Microsoft uses in the Vista software itself to determine whether you get the "premium" features (Aero Glass theme, DVD Maker, Movie Maker, etc.) is whether or not your video card has a &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model" rel="nofollow"&gt;"WDDM" - Windows Display Driver Model - driver&lt;/a&gt;. Correct?

Since it's Microsoft's software, they get to determine the criteria as to whether any particular video card can have a WDDM driver. They set the requirements. The cutoff line has to be drawn somewhere. Some cards will qualify, and some cards won't. Correct?

Intel 915 integrated graphics, an older graphics chipset that is aimed at low cost, low power applications like laptops and other mobile devices - NOT PERFORMANCE - does not meet the WDDM driver criteria that Microsoft has set. Correct?

Intel CAN'T write a WDDM driver that somehow magically overcomes the fact that it DOESN'T MEET THE WDDM REQUIREMENTs THAT MICROSOFT CONTROLS. That is a fact.

Lots of you were led to believe, through how Vista was confusingly marketed, that your computers with Intel 915 Integrated Graphics would be "Vista Capable". And this is true. Your computers with 915 graphics will run Windows Vista just fine. That is a fact.

Lots of you are angry, however, because your laptops with Intel 915 Integrated Graphics are NOT "Vista Premium Ready". You thought, for whatever reasons, that "Vista Capable" was the same as "Vista Premium Ready". That is a fact.

You probably feel kind of dumb that you bought a laptop with Intel 915 Integrated Graphics and then you bought Vista (or you bought them at the same time), and now, it doesn't do what you thought it would do (even though there was no marketing and no promise that the Vista Premium features would work!). I know I would. That is a fact.

Now, you're mad. You feel like you got screwed, got burned, got tricked. You feel the need to lash out at someone. You could lash out at Microsoft, but that's like tilting at windmills. And where would you vent your feelings? Maybe you're complaining just as loudly to Microsoft, and I'm just not seeing it. Someone please provide me a link if this is the case.

At the end of all this, I hope you can see how Intel's hands are tied here. We got burned by the unclear Vista marketing just as much as you did, because now we (I) have hundreds of unhappy 915 owners that are angry and need to lash out, so you're lashing out at Intel.

I'm sorry this happened. I'll keep my personal opinions on how Microsoft handled this to myself. I hope that my efforts to explain and clarify what's going on have helped you to understand, if not to dissipate your anger.

You're free to buy laptops with whatever kind of graphics chipset you want in the future. If you value performance, and want to be able to run the "eye candy" premium features in Windows Vista, I hope that you do your homework, and buy a laptop with a graphics chipset that meets the requirements that Microsoft has set forth (hint: other Intel integrated graphics chipsets, beyond 915, do this just fine). 

If you decide that performance and these "premium" visual features are important, you might decide it's worth it to spend the extra money to get a dedicated graphics card in your laptop from Nvidia or ATI.

And, deep within the bowels of Intel, I'm sure someone is working on a time traveling magic wand to go back and add features to the 915 hardware spec, then magically transform all of the 915 chips sitting in factories and warehouses and in your homes and offices, so that they meet the WDDM driver requirements, and are suddenly capable of running the premium stuff in Windows Vista. 

I'll let you know as soon as that's finished, and ready for release. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really feel like I'm missing something here that you all are talking about. I'm really trying to understand this issue, so please, tell me what I'm missing in the following:</p>
<p>Microsoft decided to make some "premium" features in Windows Vista accessible only if you have a high-end video card. Correct?</p>
<p>There was a lot of confusion caused by how Microsoft marketed these features in Vista - "Vista Capable" versus "Vista Premium Ready". Correct?</p>
<p>The gateway that Microsoft uses in the Vista software itself to determine whether you get the "premium" features (Aero Glass theme, DVD Maker, Movie Maker, etc.) is whether or not your video card has a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model" rel="nofollow">"WDDM" - Windows Display Driver Model - driver</a>. Correct?</p>
<p>Since it's Microsoft's software, they get to determine the criteria as to whether any particular video card can have a WDDM driver. They set the requirements. The cutoff line has to be drawn somewhere. Some cards will qualify, and some cards won't. Correct?</p>
<p>Intel 915 integrated graphics, an older graphics chipset that is aimed at low cost, low power applications like laptops and other mobile devices - NOT PERFORMANCE - does not meet the WDDM driver criteria that Microsoft has set. Correct?</p>
<p>Intel CAN'T write a WDDM driver that somehow magically overcomes the fact that it DOESN'T MEET THE WDDM REQUIREMENTs THAT MICROSOFT CONTROLS. That is a fact.</p>
<p>Lots of you were led to believe, through how Vista was confusingly marketed, that your computers with Intel 915 Integrated Graphics would be "Vista Capable". And this is true. Your computers with 915 graphics will run Windows Vista just fine. That is a fact.</p>
<p>Lots of you are angry, however, because your laptops with Intel 915 Integrated Graphics are NOT "Vista Premium Ready". You thought, for whatever reasons, that "Vista Capable" was the same as "Vista Premium Ready". That is a fact.</p>
<p>You probably feel kind of dumb that you bought a laptop with Intel 915 Integrated Graphics and then you bought Vista (or you bought them at the same time), and now, it doesn't do what you thought it would do (even though there was no marketing and no promise that the Vista Premium features would work!). I know I would. That is a fact.</p>
<p>Now, you're mad. You feel like you got screwed, got burned, got tricked. You feel the need to lash out at someone. You could lash out at Microsoft, but that's like tilting at windmills. And where would you vent your feelings? Maybe you're complaining just as loudly to Microsoft, and I'm just not seeing it. Someone please provide me a link if this is the case.</p>
<p>At the end of all this, I hope you can see how Intel's hands are tied here. We got burned by the unclear Vista marketing just as much as you did, because now we (I) have hundreds of unhappy 915 owners that are angry and need to lash out, so you're lashing out at Intel.</p>
<p>I'm sorry this happened. I'll keep my personal opinions on how Microsoft handled this to myself. I hope that my efforts to explain and clarify what's going on have helped you to understand, if not to dissipate your anger.</p>
<p>You're free to buy laptops with whatever kind of graphics chipset you want in the future. If you value performance, and want to be able to run the "eye candy" premium features in Windows Vista, I hope that you do your homework, and buy a laptop with a graphics chipset that meets the requirements that Microsoft has set forth (hint: other Intel integrated graphics chipsets, beyond 915, do this just fine). </p>
<p>If you decide that performance and these "premium" visual features are important, you might decide it's worth it to spend the extra money to get a dedicated graphics card in your laptop from Nvidia or ATI.</p>
<p>And, deep within the bowels of Intel, I'm sure someone is working on a time traveling magic wand to go back and add features to the 915 hardware spec, then magically transform all of the 915 chips sitting in factories and warehouses and in your homes and offices, so that they meet the WDDM driver requirements, and are suddenly capable of running the premium stuff in Windows Vista. </p>
<p>I'll let you know as soon as that's finished, and ready for release. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Ucarn</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2007/04/02/video-why-intel-915-graphics-dont-have-a-wddm-driver-for-vista/#comment-10096</link>
		<dc:creator>Ucarn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuses Excuse...Moving into the gaming  world calls for HIGH demand if you plan on selling your products in a lot of laptops..Second life is good topic..You guys are partners, you have a sim on the SL world map..Yet..Their arnt any drivers for the latest 965 chipset..And a lot of people have that and rely on that to have a great time on SL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuses Excuse...Moving into the gaming  world calls for HIGH demand if you plan on selling your products in a lot of laptops..Second life is good topic..You guys are partners, you have a sim on the SL world map..Yet..Their arnt any drivers for the latest 965 chipset..And a lot of people have that and rely on that to have a great time on SL.</p>
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		<title>By: mandar adivarekar</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2007/04/02/video-why-intel-915-graphics-dont-have-a-wddm-driver-for-vista/#comment-10068</link>
		<dc:creator>mandar adivarekar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intel 82801 vga driver Dawonlod</description>
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		<title>By: Josh Bancroft (Intel)</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2007/04/02/video-why-intel-915-graphics-dont-have-a-wddm-driver-for-vista/#comment-10056</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Bancroft (Intel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's some more discussion on this topic (specifically, the PCPro article) over at Slashdot:

&lt;a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/12/1658249" rel="nofollow"&gt;Microsoft Had Doubts About the 'Vista Capable' Label &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's some more discussion on this topic (specifically, the PCPro article) over at Slashdot:</p>
<p><a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/12/1658249" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Had Doubts About the 'Vista Capable' Label </a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh Bancroft (Intel)</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2007/04/02/video-why-intel-915-graphics-dont-have-a-wddm-driver-for-vista/#comment-10046</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Bancroft (Intel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys might find this interesting. This is a news article, and doesn't represent Intel's views, etc. I'm just sharing a link to a related news story I found:

"&lt;a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/buyer/news/164457/allchin-we-really-botched-vista-capable-scheme.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Allchin: We really botched "Vista Capable" scheme&lt;/a&gt;"

"Now the court has heard that several Microsoft employees also shared Wong's doubts. One employee's email stated that "even a piece of junk will qualify" for the "Windows Vista Capable" sticker, according to court testimony reported in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

Corporate vice president, Mike Nash, was also quoted as saying: "I personally got burnt. Are we seeing this from a lot of customers? I now have a $2,100 e-mail machine."

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/buyer/news/164457/allchin-we-really-botched-vista-capable-scheme.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys might find this interesting. This is a news article, and doesn't represent Intel's views, etc. I'm just sharing a link to a related news story I found:</p>
<p>"<a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/buyer/news/164457/allchin-we-really-botched-vista-capable-scheme.html" rel="nofollow">Allchin: We really botched "Vista Capable" scheme</a>"</p>
<p>"Now the court has heard that several Microsoft employees also shared Wong's doubts. One employee's email stated that "even a piece of junk will qualify" for the "Windows Vista Capable" sticker, according to court testimony reported in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.</p>
<p>Corporate vice president, Mike Nash, was also quoted as saying: "I personally got burnt. Are we seeing this from a lot of customers? I now have a $2,100 e-mail machine."</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/buyer/news/164457/allchin-we-really-botched-vista-capable-scheme.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/buyer/news/164457/allchin-we-really-b.....cheme.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: vikas</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2007/04/02/video-why-intel-915-graphics-dont-have-a-wddm-driver-for-vista/#comment-9947</link>
		<dc:creator>vikas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WANT DIGITAL SOUND TO MY PC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WANT DIGITAL SOUND TO MY PC</p>
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		<title>By: vikas</title>
		<link>http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2007/04/02/video-why-intel-915-graphics-dont-have-a-wddm-driver-for-vista/#comment-9946</link>
		<dc:creator>vikas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MY PC</description>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becuase alot of the people that bought new computers thought it would be able to since thats what it was advertised like. the whole issue of capable and ready... 

Its not just old laptops that arnt able to run aero, dvd maker and dreamscene... it is possible aswell since i had the pre release beta and it worked perfectly for the so many months i had it.

nice to know you feel happy about having a rant against everyone here steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becuase alot of the people that bought new computers thought it would be able to since thats what it was advertised like. the whole issue of capable and ready... </p>
<p>Its not just old laptops that arnt able to run aero, dvd maker and dreamscene... it is possible aswell since i had the pre release beta and it worked perfectly for the so many months i had it.</p>
<p>nice to know you feel happy about having a rant against everyone here steve.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you people retarded? Maybe you're blind, deaf, can't read or understand English? It is _NOT POSSIBLE_ to write a WDDM driver for the 915 on Vista. The hardware does not support it. PERIOD. You can't write a 'magic' driver that gets around this issue. Intel doesn't have some agenda to force people to upgrade.   Can't run Aero? Too friggin' bad. Why would you expect an old business class graphics chip to support everything? 

Vista is a next-gen OS that has next-gen requirements. Gee, I can't run it on my 386-SX25.... I'll blame Intel because they created that too! 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you people retarded? Maybe you're blind, deaf, can't read or understand English? It is _NOT POSSIBLE_ to write a WDDM driver for the 915 on Vista. The hardware does not support it. PERIOD. You can't write a 'magic' driver that gets around this issue. Intel doesn't have some agenda to force people to upgrade.   Can't run Aero? Too friggin' bad. Why would you expect an old business class graphics chip to support everything? </p>
<p>Vista is a next-gen OS that has next-gen requirements. Gee, I can't run it on my 386-SX25.... I'll blame Intel because they created that too! </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model</a></p>
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